Someone might as well get the petition going now. The war has already broken out in the Droid Life comments. For User's Unlocked/Rooted/ROM'ed this isn't as big a blow but the reason most of us purchased the device was because it was a developer phone. Verizon's refusal to allow Google Wallet and support the openess of a developer phone could easily have caused this. My speculation is that Verizon doesn't want to roll out updates as fast as Google wants too and there is some kind of conflict there. Considering there is a leaked 4.0.4 and we haven't seen 4.0.3 released officially is good evidence of this. Just my opinion.
I don't think it's so much about trusting droid-life, its about going on the actual google pages and seeing it there. This isn't a rumor they are reporting, they are reporting what they are currently seeing..
Yeah, I just posted about this on xda. I can't say what I really feel because I want to give Mustang extra work cleaning up my post but I sincerely hope this is a mistake. If not, &%$#@$%&$(()(+!!!$$%!!!!!!
I dont see how it can be a mistake. its not like items were "just left off" of the pages... it clearly says no CDMA devices are supported and archived for reference only... those arent "mistake" words
Looks like VZW has swindled its customers again. I'm running custom ROM's anyway, but some people bought the phone with understanding that it was a developer phone and would get updates straight from Google. VZW will stop at nothing to get its way. My question is why did they even agree to release the phone if they were going to pull stuff like this? Still not sure whether to believe or make anything of this or not.
Looks like VZW has swindled its customers again. I'm running custom ROM's anyway, but some people bought the phone with understanding that it was a developer phone and would get updates straight from Google. VZW will stop at nothing to get its way. My question is why did they even agree to release the phone if they were going to pull stuff like this? Still not sure whether to believe or make anything of this or not.
I think that those of us who are unlocked and rooted won't notice a darn thing actually. We will still get our upgrades as we always have...through our kernel and rom developers.
But still if true, this really sucks...thanks once again Verizon!
Now this may sound like a stupid question but does this actually mean anything to those of us who use custom ROMs anyways? Won't pretty much everything still be the same?
I would think this just means the update process won't be as fast for stock users as it would if it was a developer phone, but I don't know that much about this stuff.
You are correct. For ROM'ed users as long as the AOSP Tree is updated we can always count on devs getting us the latest and greatest but many of us purchased the device on principle so now that this principle is broken there is a lot of animosity towards whoever made this decision.
The worst part of this is that customers basically have no recourse. In all honesty, since I am already rooted and unlocked my bootloader, I will still see updates from the community. But this cuts off the "get it first" OS updates that this phone was SUPPOSED to have. I'm ridiculously angry at Verizon right now. I
No CDMA devices supported.... LTE. Remember VZW has a hard time with things and getting their LTE radios figured out. I'm wondering if it is not CDMA radio related possibly.
I'm no lawyer but I don't think a company can sell you a product with a feature and then revoke that feature without customer interaction/request. This smells of class action lawsuit. We got any legal buffs around?
This is true, although a lot of us hackers purchased our PS3s solely with the intention of running Linux on them (an advertised feature in the beginning). Even though law suits were filed by some high-profile attorneys, their lawyers just buried ours in red tape and paperwork. In the end, by the time it would've actually panned out, PS5 would be out in the market 7 years later. I don't think this will be much different unfortunately :-/
If this turns out to hold water I am dropping Verizon as soon as my contract is up. I have been a loyal customer since my monochrome flip midi camera-less flip phone the LG vx3000. Roughly 8 years I have been with this company because their cell and data service is hands-down the best. I will be really f*cking sad to be stuck with any of the other, inferior, carriers in the US. None of them holds a torch to this network.
I think everyone needs to just chill out until more information becomes apparent. If Google really has dropped all CDMA devices, this is an insult. I blame Apple.
So, does this mean all the GSM version Nexus will continue to get updates? If the GSM comes out tomorrow with 4.0.4 and 2 months later the VZW Nexus still doesnt have it, then I will be pissed.
Considering this device stands for everything Verizon hates I'm surprised they released the damn thing in the first place and I'd put money on the fact that Verizon customers will never see a open device ever again.
i dont see the big deal. its still a great phone and what do any of yall care about getting updates first? yall still get updates first through the amazing developers on this forum. now if verizon ends up locking the bootloader and making it not root able i could see people getting mad but right now who cares if its not an "official" dev phone anymore. the thing makes calls sends txts and get on the internet its unlockable and it does what its suppose to do
No what will probably end up happening at some point in time a change to the OS will be incompatible with the radio and will require a driver or available RIL source, something stupid like that then there is nothing the community can do about that.
I could be wrong and please correct me if I am as I don't want to be right.
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